Miggy on the move?

     Miguel Cabrera is a great hitter, one of the best in the game.  But what is he worth?  I would not part with Hughes or Joba.  Sorry.  No way.  It could be because I personally value an ace, even a potential ace more so than a great position player.  Especially since that position player will command a ridiculous, and high-risk contract once he hits the market, unless of course one can be reached beforehand.  I would however part with Ian Kennedy to acquire him.  Kennedy may be good, but a team must give up something to get a player like Cabrera.  And it is pretty clear that the Marlins want in return, a center fielder, and a cheap pitcher(s) with an optimistic future.  And 55 pounds of weight gain can be viewed as too much partying, but during this period of time can cause for suspicion also (just a theory, not actually accusing anyone).  I wouldn’t count anything out if I were a GM after all that has gone on behind the scenes. 

     The Gold Gloves were announced yesterday, the best time of the year!  Not quite, but I do take interest in them.  Maybe I am speaking from the heart here, maybe not, but Coco Crisp was a great defensive CF this season.  And while maybe a few others could have taken home the award, and did, Coco probably should have won over Grady Sizemore.  Coco’s "Zone Rating" was significantly better than Grady’s and many of the experts agree as well.  I know that the experts simply produce opinions, but some of the ones that I listen to at least put a lot of time into analyzing defensive value/production.  For example, Rob Neyer, who I may disagree with sometimes, but who seems to represent many knowledgeable "experts" in his writing, explained in his blog.  "That it isn’t about how a player finishes necessarily, it is also how they start their route."  And I have thought about this before and totally agree with this.  A player such as Sizemore may finish the play with a leaping grab, but that leaping grab may come as a result of him initially taking a poor route to the ball.  And from the research that some of these experts have done, I think it is safe to say that Coco takes better paths to most putouts than that of Sizemore. 

     I wonder if GM’s are going to value Andruw Jones’ Gold Glove victory more so than his miserable offensive season.  This is the fact, Jones can still play the position and should bring a better bat than he had last season.  But he isn’t worth a giant $18 million a year contract.  Maybe if I were the Angels and I had an opening, because taking a chance on a player such as Jones may put them over the top.  And they need a bat, that is obvious.  But I would be very hesitant to overpay Jones, or Hunter, or whatever other free agent is on this year’s extravagant market. 

     Which is why I very much like the position the Red Sox are in.  It is actually a little too comforting.  I keep thinking to myself that it is too be good to be true and that something is going to go wrong.  They are truly flexing their financial muscles in every way imaginable:  Six capable starters + Julian Tavarez as insurance, all starting positions filled with legit players (assuming Lowell will re-sign), a good bullpen with farm help on the way.  An upgrade at backup catcher would be the biggest concern, to me, if Lowell is in fact retained, which looks to be occuring.  The bench may need a few pieces, but I am almost overly confident going into the season, and I don’t know if I like every aspect of that.  It is just easier in this game with a large payroll.   

   

    

    

9 Comments

they actually analyze the routes they take?! for each and every catch…every day? wow!

those gold glove awards are completely subjective anyway…as you know. david wright? c’mon!

as much as i’d love for the yanks to have a big bat at third base next year, i don ‘t want to give up any of our top three guys ( joba phil or IPK).

first of all there is the (slim) chance that they could turn into a trio like glavine, maddux and smoltz. secondly assuming that not all of them are likely to actually make it in the big league, maybe it’s best to keep all three to have a little more time to determine which of them are best for the club…it may well be that kennedy will end up with the most successful career. at this point it’s really impossible to tell.

doing a trade like that is basically like getting close to a-rod’s production at third, but giving up a huge prospect and your center fielder for nothing. i’d just assume they eat crow and pay a-rod to come back…and keep all three of those guys. miggy isn’t going to stay a 3rd baseman for long anyway?

does any of that make sense to you?

The Marlins aren’t going to trade Miguel Cabrera unless they get what they want for him, and if there’s one organization that knows how to get what they want for their players, it’s the Marlins. Brian Cashman would be a fool to trade two of those pitchers and Melky Cabrera for Miguel Cabrera. He’s said he’s not trading them and I believe him. Kennedy and Melky will NOT get it done. I don’t think Miguel Cabrera will end up with the Yankees. The Dodgers have the prospects to get it done. With Joe Torre wanting to win now and Ned Colletti as aggressive as he usually is, I wouldn’t be stunned to see a blockbuster of about six or seven top prospects going to Florida for Dontrelle Willis and Cabrera.

Mike, Well they would still have Wang, Joba, and Hughes. And I don’t blame you for not wanting to trade any piece of that young pitching core. It is easier to address offense in the free agent market, and there is less risk involved. Also, about the awards, I believe John Dewan and co. (The Fielding Bible awards guys) actually look at every play that a player makes or close to it. At least that is what they said in “The Fielding Bible.” Those people who vote for the Gold Gloves most definitely do not.

Paul, I personally wouldn’t give up much more than that Melky and Kennedy package, which means I may not acquire Miguel at all. So be it.

” I keep thinking to myself that it is too be good to be true and that something is going to go wrong.”

hey, you sound like a classic (pre-2004) redsox fan. i’d LOVE to have the worries you guys have :)

also…i forgot to mention: joba might have to end up back in the bullpen.

There is no way in the world I’d trade the Yankees’ young, talented pitchers for Cabrera. If Cabrera looked like an Adonis instead of a doughboy, I’d see your point about the suspicions, Joe. Instead, he just looks like he’s spent too much time at various pancake and pork establishments. Great player, but lacks self-discipline. Back to the pitching, as much as anything, the Yankees have lacked the ability to win pitchers’ duels in the last several years, and trading away promising starters would do nothing to help that. The Yanks need to do more than out-slug teams; they need to do a better job of shutting them down as well. There’s no way I’d trade those kids. If anything, the Yankees should build the team around more pitching depth and talent.
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I’m always concerned when I see a professional athlete who doesn’t maintain their physical condition, especially a young player like Cabrera. Unless he is a perfect fit, I wouldn’t trade for him.

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And don’t get me wrong I understand that, but I might trade Kennedy and Melky if that were even an option. And Jeter and Girardi might be able to get Cabrera thinking the right way, he is young and may have to have some help to motivate him. Young pitching is a great thing to have, but they would still have three good young pitchers that are under the age of 27, and would be adding one of the best hitters in baseball, and who should be one of the best hitters for the next nine or ten years. I see both sides of the spectrum on this I guess.

I follow you Joe, and I do think that Cabrera is tempting because of his abilities. There are a few things making me leery. The first is that, while it’s early, I’m unwilling to say that Kennedy is more dispensable as a prospect than Hughes. Another is that there can never be enough pitching talent, and the Yankees have needed lots of pitching depth the last three years. A third is that Cabrera has been woefully out of shape. He also regressed defensively last year, and the Yankees cannot afford to acquire someone defensively complacent, especially at third base. Lastly, the Yankees moved Damon from center for a reason, for the best to me, and this trade would necessitate moving Matsui back to left unless the Yankees acquired Torii Hunter. Without Hunter, the trade would weaken the Yankees defensively, and perhaps not only in the outfield.

Cabrera is tempting, but I’d still prefer to see the kid pitchers develop.

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